Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Breaking up Homeland Security

Shortly after her trip to the border, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joined David Remnick to talk about what she saw in the migrant-detention facilities she visited and why she thinks the Department of Homeland Security needs to be broken up. And Ocasio-Cortez weighs in on whether Joe Biden is qualified to be President, given his favorable comments about colleagues who supported forms of segregation. “Issues of race and gender are not extra-credit points,” she says. “They are a core part of the competencies that a President needs. . . . Where are you on understanding the people that live in this country?” Plus, the critic Amanda Petrusich talks with the singer Carly Rae Jepsen, who performs an acoustic version of her hit “I Really Like You.”

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on the 2020 Presidential Race and Why We Should Break up Homeland Security

A hero to the left and a favored villain of the right, the New York congressional representative sits for a long interview with David Remnick.

Carly Rae Jepsen Talks with Amanda Petrusich

The singer, who never has writer’s block, crafts songs by the dozen to pick and choose for her albums. She spoke with the New Yorker critic and performed “I Really Like You.”